How Would You Get Out ?

I hit with a tip of inside, go 2-3 rails. I don't want to be straight in on the 8, I want a little angle, I don't want to shoot the nine from the rail.

Ken
 
I agree about the right english, three rails....but MIDDLE right (3:00 o'clock)
High ball makes the cue ball lazy.

try it
 
Old Nine Baller said:
How would you get from the 7 to the 8 in this layout? The 7 is slightly off the rail.


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If the 7-ball were closer to pocket, then going forward with no inside is an absolute bread-n-butter shot. But, since it's off the pocket by quite a bit, I don't think it's the hanger everyone is saying, else you wouldn't have put it up.

Bank the 8-ball. Just because.

Or use extreme inside on the 7-ball and never come close to the head rail. Again, just because.
 
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Cornerman said:
If the 7-ball were closer to pocket, then going forward with no inside is an absolute bread-n-butter shot. But, since it's off the pocket by quite a bit, I don't think it's the hanger everyone is saying, else you wouldn't have put it up.

Bank the 8-ball. Just because.

Or use extreme inside on the 7-ball and never come close to the head rail. Again, just because.
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Got to disagree with you this time, Freddie. The object ball is only 3/4 of a diamond away from the pocket and the cue ball is just 2 1/2 diamonds away from the object ball. Secondly, at the risk of becoming embroiled in the long debate, I believe that at the angle, distance and speed of this shot, inside english aids in pocketing the ball because it practically guarantees that you'll cut it enough. Lastly, I want to be able to shoot with no fear of either the corner pocket and, as Tate noted, making a bridge for low left may be a little akward.
 
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I've seen great players mess this up. You can go either way. I think using right spin is probably better but could understand the logic of using left. That said, either way you go, you're traveling a long way in need of *good* shape on the 8. Neither position route eliminates the possibility you could come up funny. You should probably go with whatever route you're most comfortable with (and you're allowed to change your mind if the shot comes up again).
 
dawgcpa said:
I'll tell you how it would probably go for me....

I'd shoot it with high inside as suggested but come up way short. I'd probably be about in the middle of the table. Then, I'd have a reverse bank on the 8 in the side pocket and go 3 rails for the 9. Of course I'd over run that and then be on the 50 yard line as to which pocket I'd put the 9. I'd end up making a great cut on the nine but have to use some english to keep from scratching.... Once I got out, I'd have another beer because I'd be exhausted....

That's not how its suppose to be done but you asked how I'd do it!
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Running out will make you tired & thirsty:D.

You are correct, I did ask how you'd do it. Thank you.

ONB
 
Old Nine Baller said:
pt109,

You can always tell the guys who can play or who have been around those who can play. It's a simple yet significant distinction between using follow or center (or even inside draw) on this shot.

ONB
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Not in my book. The relatively steep angle on the 7 makes it a non-issue. The way to control this shot is to control the amount of cut on the 7. Right center or high right will get pretty much the same results because the cut is thin. I would agree if there were less of a cut. This is not a shot you hit hard at all - it's a smooth shot.
 
TATE said:
Not in my book. The relatively steep angle on the 7 makes it a non-issue. The way to control this shot is to control the amount of cut on the 7. Right center or high right will get pretty much the same results because the cut is thin. I would agree if there were less of a cut. This is not a shot you hit hard at all - it's a smooth shot.
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Bingo!
Its hard to kill the cb in the corner unless you try to kill the cb in the corner on this shot.
Chuck
 
TATE said:
Not in my book. The relatively steep angle on the 7 makes it a non-issue. The way to control this shot is to control the amount of cut on the 7. Right center or high right will get pretty much the same results because the cut is thin. I would agree if there were less of a cut. This is not a shot you hit hard at all - it's a smooth shot.
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I feel all pool and snooker players should play some three-cushion.
High, low, or center becomes very significant on every shot.
You might only get a few extra inches distance, but sometimes that
determines who wins.
 
Chuck Fields said:
A little above center right hand English. 3 rails below the 8. Float forward a few inches for the 9.


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That's the way almost every pro would shoot it. It creates a natural angle to come in on the right line for the eight ball, and there's little chance of scratching.
 
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I'd cut the 7 and float about a diamond or diamond and a half below mid-table and take the 8 in the side to get easy position on the 9.

Saw this post and ran it out a few times while practicing. Unless the side pockets are super tight it's not that difficult.
 
I just set this shot up on my Diamond table and shot it with both inside and outside.

The inside english shot lays more natural making it much easier to execute. Using outside puts the cueball moving away from key position on the 8 and speed is much more of a factor.

I shoot this all day long with inside going 3 rails. Once you hit the 3rd rail it's all about speed from there since the CB is coming down the line to the 8 already.


Gary
 
If you're not going 3 cushions w/inside, you're not playing the right shot. Being able to get on the ball with a slow-drag, or even 2 cushions w/outside...doesn't mean squat. You can get on the ball with the wrong shot, but you'll get shape more often playing the right shot.

The end.
 
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