pt;
I applaude you for consistently looking for the good in people.
you're a good man and more of us here should look to your example. :thumbup:
best,
brian kc
p.s. you got my twenty bucks?
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Been Caught Stealing? Who is this Guy?
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pt;
I applaude you for consistently looking for the good in people.
you're a good man and more of us here should look to your example. :thumbup:
best,
brian kc
p.s. you got my twenty bucks?
I am shocked that Derek and his uncle came on this forum and lied about what happened.
Here is what will happen next - Derek won't do his community service. Derek won't travel all the way back to Las Vega$ for his court on November 28th. Derek will say that his wife's cousin's uncle's brother was very sick and he was helping him during this time so he couldn't do what the court ordered or travel back to Las Vega$. Derek will act as he is the victim once again. A warrant will be put out for Derek and he will be pulled over for speeding on the way to church six months from now and go back to jail.
Except they won't serve a out of state warrant for a misdemeanor.
So Dave, what is your take on this?
I know that if the DA stuck with the felony charge and, if convicted, Derek Savoie would have faced a minimum of 1 year in Clark County. Obviously, no one knew if he had prior convictions or not. My guess is that the DA cut him a deal for a firsttime offender? Changed the charge to, perhaps, a petty/misdemeanor theft or disorderly persons?
Eric
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PT, just because you gave the guy the benefit of doubt doesn't make you a
bad guy, it makes you a bit more compassionate than we were willing to be at the moment.
You turned him Green after I went to all the trouble of turning him Red.
Thats ok, I forgive you. You made my Magic Power Wand go down a notch.
Now I have to go find some Power Ups.
I seriously had my doubts that this was his rodeo in court.
That and I don't know any church going Christians that make threats of bodily harm to others. No matter what type of situation they may find themselves in.
bad guy, it makes you a bit more compassionate than we were willing to be at the moment.
You turned him Green after I went to all the trouble of turning him Red.
Thats ok, I forgive you. You made my Magic Power Wand go down a notch.
Now I have to go find some Power Ups.
I seriously had my doubts that this was his rodeo in court.
That and I don't know any church going Christians that make threats of bodily harm to others. No matter what type of situation they may find themselves in.
Hey Mike this is David Uwate. I met you in Tunica.
This is a very common plea deal for first time offenders or in cases where there are evidentiary issues. Seeing as you say you have him on video, walking with the cues, my guess has to be that he was offered this due to his lack of prior record and not to problems with securing a conviction from the evidence.
In non violent crimes, especially where the victim has been made whole again via recovery of stolen property, it is commonplace to see Judges and prosecutors resolve those cases without consulting with the victims. I realize this leaves a bad taste in your mouth but consider that to these cogs in the justice system wheel, this case is one of many where there are asked to either dedicate resources towards a trial or plea the case down to a mm and its resolved with a criminal conviction of theft on the defendants record. Think about it, if they had offered him 9 mos in jail to plea, he would have plead not guilty, bonded out and this would be a likely trial. Defendants who are offered sentences that are in upper reaches of where they would get the same sentence were they convicted at trial have nothing to lose by going to trial. To the Judge and prosecutor, they would rather dedicate the resources towards putting violent repeat offenders in prison.
As far as your rights as a victim, one thing you can do is call the prosecutor and ask that the defendant be adjudicated guilty of the mm theft charges. In many states an adjudication of guilt will be discoverable on background checks and is asked on job applications. Getting his record sealed and expunged on an adjudication of guilt is also much harder than if he is given a withhold adjudication of guilt.
Michael, are you upset because the DA didn't consult with you before the plea. What would you have said to try to have them change the plea to something more harsh?
I doubt that it would have done any good. The good thing is that he has been outed on this site and he will have a hard time showing his face in anything major, at least for a while.
I was at your booth in Vegas and can say that your guys had some real nice stuff there.
Very good post, he mite of skipped jail, but he cant skip the embarrasment that he deserves from fellow man, but like anything else it will die down as other things happen in our worlds, and we all will slowly forget about what this idiot had did, hopefully he will be band forever here, we dont need liars around anyhow, iam glad MIKE (cue man)came on here and set the story straight, now with out a doubt, Derek is a POS!
Yeah, this is the Main Forum after all so I may need to slow things down......and are you really sure that's your opinion?
Maybe you should get in on that group hug with Hungarian and Free Shot.
Sad but true...I said all along that this POS thief would never see jail time, and I was right. Like others have said, at least he's been outed in his local pool community, and here on AzB. What a lying sack of sh!t!...albeit a "Christian" one! LOL Sure hope his wife wakes up and smells the coffee...honey, get rid of this loser. Derek...you almost had some of us fooled (not me), but your own 'posse' apparently knows you pretty well.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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I threw in JHMO just so I wouldn't offend anybody because there are a unch of tender sillynannies on here.
IMHO
But cant they recharge him if he doesnt do the CS, restitution etc?
Go back to post 85. I am sorry I was right. But I have personal stood in court and watched this crap over and over and over. The jail space is needed for more hardened scum. Remember guys if he goes to jail WE the taxpayers have to pay for him to be there. And to whom ever said he could be extradited and sent to jail in vegas.....the only way that happens is if he goes to nv and gets caught or pulled over by a nv police officer. Lots of guys running from child support in other states and even worse crimes.
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small claims court
michael you might consider a small claims court to recover travel eats and hotel >:thumbup: and you know where to serve him on the 28th .
MMike
michael you might consider a small claims court to recover travel eats and hotel >:thumbup: and you know where to serve him on the 28th .
MMike
No money here, KC.
But I might come up with some if you'll tell the Brandenburg Gate story.
...hell, I might even forgive you for the 'Cannibal lecture' pun.
regards
pt
Actually, it sounds like this was the perfect solution from the perspective of the Nevada justice system. They resolve it with a minimum of expense while at the same time seeing to it that he will likely stay the hell out of Nevada.
You made a nice gester if derek would of owned up , at least we could of respected the truth. there is no respect for liars and theifs.
Forgiveness is a rare gift and derek just blew it . he will not ever have that chance in here again.
PT nice try
MMike
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Yep. Go back to post #85...you still don't get it, you wannabe cop. You had no clue if Derek Savoie had priors. You still are not a cop, lawyer or judge, but act like you know something the average dumbass(us) can't possibly know. You jumped on your soapbox with a 50/50 coin flip guess on what would happen to him. If he had prior convictions, you would be dead azzed wrong, but since you won the coin flip, you are now beating your chest like you have a crystal ball. Get over your self.
Like I said, you are gonna make a *GREAT* cop, someday
Eric
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